{"id":106,"date":"2012-12-08T12:26:15","date_gmt":"2012-12-08T18:26:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/?p=106"},"modified":"2012-12-08T12:30:53","modified_gmt":"2012-12-08T18:30:53","slug":"science-vs-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/2012\/12\/08\/science-vs-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Science vs God Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"

Recently there was\u00a0a debate in New York City between two men arguing from science against the existence of God and two who apparently who were arguing for God’s existence.\u00a0 This is described in an article on Foxnews.com, “Science vs. God:\u00a0 does progress trump faith<\/a>?”\u00a0 It’s interesting who was in this debate.\u00a0 Lawrence Krauss is a well-known physicist from Arizona State University and Michael Shermer is a founding publisher of Skeptic magazine.\u00a0 Krauss and Shermer argue against God’s existence.\u00a0 On the “God side” was Dinesh D’Souza and Ian Hutchinson.\u00a0 D’Souza is well known for the 2016 documentary movie and Ian Hutchinson is a professior of nuclear engineering at MIT.\u00a0 D’Souza and Hutchinson argued for the compatibility of science and religion.\u00a0 But they don’t particulary argue for Christianity specifically.\u00a0 Their opponents picked up on this.\u00a0 I have some simpathy for atheists in some issues because the arguments of Christian apologists\u00a0sometimes leave me unsatisfied.\u00a0 I didn’t actually see the debate, so I’m only going by the article on Foxnews.\u00a0 Don’t get me wrong, D’Souza made good points.\u00a0 There is much good being done by modern Christian apologists mostly because they are having success at being heard.<\/p>\n

But, sometimes they don’t give adequate answers because they don’t go far enough in arguing specifically for Christianity and specifically for the truth of the Bible.\u00a0 There are things that require the Biblical answers in order to have a complete answer.\u00a0 Also, it is not adequate to treat all religions as sort of “equal.”\u00a0 The atheists at the debate pointed out that both the men representing the “God” side were Christians, so that meant they rejected all the religions in the world except one.\u00a0 The atheists said they\u00a0were asking them to reject one more.\u00a0 Obviously Christians can’t oblige on this.\u00a0 The God of the Bible is unlike the gods of all other\u00a0religions.<\/p>\n

Science cannot disprove God and science cannot really prove anything about origins.\u00a0\u00a0Science can prove things that can be reproduced by experiment today, but the origin of things is not like that.\u00a0\u00a0Science studies origins to determine the plausibility of the various possibilities.\u00a0 Many Christian apologists fail in not rejecting evolution and the Big Bang.\u00a0 Christians are called to stand on all the truth, not just part of it.\u00a0 We won’t get respect for giving a mixed or contradictory message.\u00a0 This is the actual impression of Christians that\u00a0skeptics and nonchristians\u00a0very often have.\u00a0 The skeptics have the right to criticize the contradictory incoherent messages that Christian’s sometimes have about what they believe and why they believe it.<\/p>\n

The Foxnews article says\u00a0that D’Souza made the statement, “The last good argument against God came out in the 1850s<\/em><\/span>.”\u00a0 D’Souza was referring to Charles Darwin’s book, Origin of Species.\u00a0 But Darwin was wrong.\u00a0 There has never been a good argument against the existence of God.\u00a0 Often arguments against God’s existence are based on\u00a0misunderstandings of\u00a0Biblical concepts, or they are based on evolution.\u00a0 In the debate, physicist Lawrence Krauss said, “500 years of science have demonstrated that God, that vague notion, is not likely<\/em><\/span>.”\u00a0\u00a0Perhaps for some God is a “vague notion,” but it should not be like\u00a0that for any Christian.\u00a0 Christians should know better than to allow God to be a vague notion.\u00a0\u00a0The God who created the universe has spoken to mankind and given us the answers we need in the Bible.\u00a0 We have in the Bible much more than vague notions!\u00a0\u00a0We may not always have all the information to fully answer some scientific or archeological questions regarding things in Bible.\u00a0 But that doesn’t disprove the Bible.\u00a0\u00a0In the light of all the wonderful confirmations of the Bible from science and archeology, we should be glad for the answers we have.<\/p>\n

Krauss was apparently thinking of the evidence from modern science supporting evolution and the Big Bang.\u00a0 Many of Darwin’s conclusions were unwarranted from the actual evidence.\u00a0 In fact, he didn’t even make very good observations in ways because he didn’t keep adequate records.\u00a0 Since Darwin, scientists have been locked into a wrong way of thinking.\u00a0 Creationists have pointed out a number of things that not only refute evolution but also argue specifically for the truth of the Bible.\u00a0 If the Bible is really true, there must be historical and scientific evidence that supports it.\u00a0 That does not mean the evidence proves the Bible.\u00a0 It doesn’t actually have to technically “prove” it to give people plenty of reason to believe it.\u00a0 Also, Christianity is not just borne out by objective\u00a0things like scientific evidence.\u00a0 It explains life better than other religions.\u00a0 This part is not as obvious and many Christian apologists don’t address this aspect enough.<\/p>\n

The most interesting thing perhaps in the Foxnews article is the polling of the audience at the debate, at the end of the article.\u00a0 Krauss and Shermer increased their votes about who won the debate from 37% (before the debate) to 50% (after the debate).\u00a0 But D’Souza and Hutchinson only increased their votes from 34% to 38%.\u00a0 This implies we need to do a better job at engaging people.\u00a0 But, it probably also implies it takes more than a debate or a lecture to change someone’s mind.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Recently there was\u00a0a debate in New York City between two men arguing from science against the existence of God and two who apparently who were arguing for God’s existence.\u00a0 This is described in an article on Foxnews.com, “Science vs. God:\u00a0 does progress trump faith?”\u00a0 It’s interesting who was in this debate.\u00a0 Lawrence Krauss is a … Continue reading Science vs God Debate<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-106","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-other-apologetics-or-history"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=106"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":109,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106\/revisions\/109"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=106"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=106"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/creationanswers.net\/answersblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=106"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}